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at the cayman island. >> it's a nice gesture for the president considering that he hasn't let joe biden have lunch with him even once. that he hasn't let joe biden have lunch with him even once. >>> as you heard, we have lots more to talk about with our roundtable right after this from our abc stations. >> but, the problem with controlling costs you can only do that to some degree. every single year we go back and do the "doc" fix and we'll do it between now and january 1st. that is all always a phoney that congress is going to cut payments to doctors and doctors pull out of the medicare program. >> and the money is restored. >> it's hard to do this without structural reforms. >> let me, if you don't mind, we have seen people's retirement package reduced. we have seen people's individual savings, go down. you can't keep on seeing 401(k)s go down and then say, we're going to cut the other stuff that people count on. >> the numbers have to work. >> i want to turn to the tax debate as well. you guys are sitting back. let's get to the tax debate. you have seen speaker boehner, and other republic
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